Well as some of you may have heard in 3.3 Blizzard is adding a new feature to the game. When you have an enchanter in the group there will be a 3rd option alongside Need/Greed which is Disenchant. From what they have said so far, you all just select disenchant and it will roll off the shard to the top highest roll and automatically give the enchanting mats to that person. Now I’m not really a fan of this, I usually do the disenchanting and roll off the shards at the end but using my own skill without my permission? I think that’s a bit over the top.
Now I’ve actually got a pretty strong opinion of disenchanting at the moment and I’m going to let you guys know what my opinion is. I think that disenchanting and rolling for shards at the end of the instance is NOT fair to the enchanter. The enchanter had to spend a lot of gold and mats to level up the skill, and its quite possibly the most hardest profession to level in the game. Now for example a skinner, gets to go into an instance and skin everything and keep the profits at the end right? We don’t ask to split up the skinning/herbing/mining materials at the end. We let them keep it, the only place for an enchanter to get materials really is in an instance, which is when the materials of that run then gets split up and quite often the enchanter walks away with nothing.. I just don’t see this fair to the enchanter in the first place. If this is the way its going to be, I think it would only be fair for the group to be able to call shares on the leather, herbs and ore at the end of the run too. Just to be clear, I’m fine with running an instance/raid with my guild and those materials going to the guild bank, but a 5man pug on the other hand, that’s where I get annoyed.
The only other way for enchanters is to hope that greens drop for us outside of instances which can be quite tricky, when miners for example can go around the world on their flying mount chasing mining nodes.
Feel free to leave your opinion in the comments.
I was actually thinking this the other day. Why do skinners not roll off skinning mats in VH and stuff? This is really a dumb change to the system. If you think about it, the only source of income for an enchanter is to jack up the prices of scrolls on the AH, which is why everyone has to roll an enchanter *just* so they don’t get ripped off.
VH is where skinners make the most profit, its ridiculous.
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I have a 450 enchanter with almost all recipes, and I completely disagree with you. Skins, nodes and herbs are part of the instance, and are generally somewhat rare. EVERY boss drops an item, and EVERY boss has the capability to give a shard if nobody needs the loot.
I can’t even see your point – it’s just so greedy to expect to be allowed to keep the “prizes” from the bosses. AutoDE is a great benefit to everyone in the party, including the enchanter. It is such a pain to shard everything manually. It also prevents enchanters from “forgetting” and taking off with all the mats at the end, which is really sucky if you’re hoping for a shard. This can even happen to an enchanter – if there are multiple DEs in a group, you have to trust someone – and that is always risky if it’s a pug. Plus, DEing drives the price of enchanting materials down and allows more people access to enchants.
I do see a downside for enchanters here. Normaly, weather you greed the item and DE for your self and the mat, or de for the group, you can still level up your enchanting skill this way. Take that out all togather…and your pretty much gonna be buying blues from the auction house to DE..and we all know how those prices are. Yes, this is gonna hurt enchanters, and probably drive up the price of blues.
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I agree. What is being asked is that the entire loot that is not needed is just taken by the enchanter. What is the point in winning a BoP item from a boss on a greed rool and having to vendor it for a minimal price when it can be disenchanted for a bit more gold?
Our guild runs Need or Greed on BoE and Need or Dis (if possible) on BoP. This is by far the fairest way and profitable to everybody, more so than vendoring tat.